TheOmbudsman
06-26 12:20 PM
I respect your opinion.
There is no indication that "Republicans" are taking a hit by not passing the bill. In fact, if you go to Congress.org you will polls there showing that Americans prefer no bill instead of "a bad bill". By bad bill they mean, the amnesty one, CIR.
Folks, what we need to remember is that this country is still a democracy. When you see AILA - which is a reliable source in this case - reporting that 400:1 calls are being placed against CIR, that is a serious business. Looking at results of recent elections, you can tell that there is increasing indication that voters are paying attention to candidates which are strong in immigration records. Sen. Bilbray (R) recently won the election in spite of Republicans poor performance. In my state, Maria Cantwell (D) is showing no gaps against an incumbent, who happens to be Republican. In Utah, Sen. Cannon (R) but pro CIR is fighting very hard against an incumbent. Election results for this will be known tomorrow, but the fact that he is fighting is the indication one needs to believe that representatives fighting against CIR/amnesty are looking good, regardless which party the individual is in. CIR is known mainly is an amnesty bill. Therefore not passing CIR seems to be perceived by voters as a good thing. Also, there are already many laws that if executed, could aleviate the flow of illegal immigration and provide some security to the border until the House gathers enough support to pass a more enforcement only bill. Personally I have hopes that IF the House proposals prevail after the elections in November, then it is when we could see a kind of Cornyn/Kyl bill passed ?
Now you say, how can the above post help our cause ?
I think we need to start by having a clear picture of what's going on. If we continue this route of expecting that a bill with amnesty provisions on it will save us, you many need to be prepared for a long wait to see that happening. If it is true that our lobbying efforts are useless and have no chances to leverage a bill of our own cause, so darn, I will just pray, watch, give no donations and wait in a very passive way and see what happens.
IV has done a great job by making all the contact information with the lobbying group, now we need to engage them to lobby for our bill only. If that's not possible, then I think there is no major reason to donate or take action on this anymore. Just wait and let the big guys (AILA, Catholic Curch, Laraza) battle for CIR and see what happens.
I find it slightly amusing that your perception is that my perception is distorted. I am not a member of the core team and my remarks are my personal opinion. If I am wrong, well, then I'm wrong. If I'm right, these posts will be buried so far in the thread that it won't matter at that time.
There is no indication that "Republicans" are taking a hit by not passing the bill. In fact, if you go to Congress.org you will polls there showing that Americans prefer no bill instead of "a bad bill". By bad bill they mean, the amnesty one, CIR.
Folks, what we need to remember is that this country is still a democracy. When you see AILA - which is a reliable source in this case - reporting that 400:1 calls are being placed against CIR, that is a serious business. Looking at results of recent elections, you can tell that there is increasing indication that voters are paying attention to candidates which are strong in immigration records. Sen. Bilbray (R) recently won the election in spite of Republicans poor performance. In my state, Maria Cantwell (D) is showing no gaps against an incumbent, who happens to be Republican. In Utah, Sen. Cannon (R) but pro CIR is fighting very hard against an incumbent. Election results for this will be known tomorrow, but the fact that he is fighting is the indication one needs to believe that representatives fighting against CIR/amnesty are looking good, regardless which party the individual is in. CIR is known mainly is an amnesty bill. Therefore not passing CIR seems to be perceived by voters as a good thing. Also, there are already many laws that if executed, could aleviate the flow of illegal immigration and provide some security to the border until the House gathers enough support to pass a more enforcement only bill. Personally I have hopes that IF the House proposals prevail after the elections in November, then it is when we could see a kind of Cornyn/Kyl bill passed ?
Now you say, how can the above post help our cause ?
I think we need to start by having a clear picture of what's going on. If we continue this route of expecting that a bill with amnesty provisions on it will save us, you many need to be prepared for a long wait to see that happening. If it is true that our lobbying efforts are useless and have no chances to leverage a bill of our own cause, so darn, I will just pray, watch, give no donations and wait in a very passive way and see what happens.
IV has done a great job by making all the contact information with the lobbying group, now we need to engage them to lobby for our bill only. If that's not possible, then I think there is no major reason to donate or take action on this anymore. Just wait and let the big guys (AILA, Catholic Curch, Laraza) battle for CIR and see what happens.
I find it slightly amusing that your perception is that my perception is distorted. I am not a member of the core team and my remarks are my personal opinion. If I am wrong, well, then I'm wrong. If I'm right, these posts will be buried so far in the thread that it won't matter at that time.
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08-27 10:57 PM
Finally I got the receipt notice for I485, AP, EAD. When I checked online, it seems they already ordered the EAD card.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
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sparky_jones
09-23 04:20 PM
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I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
Very well said. There was very little new information, yet the use of language makes it look like several new and significant facts are being disclosed. True hallmark of Washington DC!
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I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
Very well said. There was very little new information, yet the use of language makes it look like several new and significant facts are being disclosed. True hallmark of Washington DC!
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mwin
08-28 01:41 PM
Looks like they are processing EAD and AP (in the mail room itself:) ) along with receipts. No point in touching the same application twice or thrice. If you get a receipt then you should also get EAD and AP:):).
It's very frustrating.. TSC is sitting on our application or what? Approx 30K application are there for July 2nd filer including NSC->TSC transfer(per old NYT report). We see reporting of 1 or 2 receipting a day then few quite days. :mad::mad::mad:
It will approx 60 days since filing and still waiting for Receipt. What a heck..
It's very frustrating.. TSC is sitting on our application or what? Approx 30K application are there for July 2nd filer including NSC->TSC transfer(per old NYT report). We see reporting of 1 or 2 receipting a day then few quite days. :mad::mad::mad:
It will approx 60 days since filing and still waiting for Receipt. What a heck..
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senthil1
05-11 07:24 PM
In countries like Europe people need not come USA just for survival as that is a developed country. Also if they have to wait 10 years to get GC then no Europeans will apply GC as GC is not that much importance. USA will lose them. But it is not the case for indians. If you go out of country then hundreds of people are waiting to take your position in next flight in India. May be in future if Indians also does not bother about GC USA will come and give GC fast.
Why they are not blaming pakistanis? They are small in numbers. In 1990s Indians also were given warm welcome as the number was small and abuses were less. Now over 40K h1bs plus 50K L1s were given in an year. Total number of H1b and L1 are more than 200k. Even most optimistic survey tells that 100k new high tech jobs are created per year that too in good times . Certainly we cannot deny displacement of US workers by immigrants. Now we started justifying this also by capitilism,globalization etc. But basically future of h1b and any other immigration program will depend on USA people support eventhough politics plays a siginificant role. Can we get support of USA citizens for expanding immigration when economy is severe recession?
Thats my point. Why are pakistanis getting green cards and nobody is saying they have taken jobs away from Americans? So many come to US on visa free travel, work 6 months undocumented from european countries, yet they are the first to get the GCs while Indians abuse B1, they abuse H1. How come only Indians abuse everything no one else abuses anything?
Why they are not blaming pakistanis? They are small in numbers. In 1990s Indians also were given warm welcome as the number was small and abuses were less. Now over 40K h1bs plus 50K L1s were given in an year. Total number of H1b and L1 are more than 200k. Even most optimistic survey tells that 100k new high tech jobs are created per year that too in good times . Certainly we cannot deny displacement of US workers by immigrants. Now we started justifying this also by capitilism,globalization etc. But basically future of h1b and any other immigration program will depend on USA people support eventhough politics plays a siginificant role. Can we get support of USA citizens for expanding immigration when economy is severe recession?
Thats my point. Why are pakistanis getting green cards and nobody is saying they have taken jobs away from Americans? So many come to US on visa free travel, work 6 months undocumented from european countries, yet they are the first to get the GCs while Indians abuse B1, they abuse H1. How come only Indians abuse everything no one else abuses anything?
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gauravster
07-08 04:30 PM
You are incorrect on multiple accounts.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
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kosars
08-25 02:47 PM
applied July 2nd recieved July 3rd. Entered on 23rd Aug. Got the nos from the back of the checks. Waiting for the Receipts in mail
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sanhari
08-13 10:44 AM
I think one need to create database based on who came in what year and what is the priority data's . True there are people like me came in 2000 and still has priority date as Dec 2004, this is not my fault, this is forced by GC process tied with employer.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
You can try, but I don't think arguing based on landing/start date will work, because that time the intent is not for immigration(I also have a 3 year delay on my GC filing, due to my company). But the priority date which is an official starting point for an intent to be an immigrant has a better chance for success. Thank you for your inputs.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
You can try, but I don't think arguing based on landing/start date will work, because that time the intent is not for immigration(I also have a 3 year delay on my GC filing, due to my company). But the priority date which is an official starting point for an intent to be an immigrant has a better chance for success. Thank you for your inputs.
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raydon
08-18 09:34 PM
Applied for EAD (paper based) on July 18, 2008. I-765 approved 08/14. Received the cards in the mail today valid for upto Aug 2010. Losing 2 months since previous EAD was valid for upto 10/18.
Surprisingly the application asked for 2-yr cards if the I-140 petition is approved. As far as I know, my petition is still pending approval at TSC. No LUDs or email updates or anything of the kind. Maybe I should check whether this means an impending I-140 approval or if it's in "approvable state".
My category is EB3 - March 2004.
Good luck to all for their respective approvals.
Surprisingly the application asked for 2-yr cards if the I-140 petition is approved. As far as I know, my petition is still pending approval at TSC. No LUDs or email updates or anything of the kind. Maybe I should check whether this means an impending I-140 approval or if it's in "approvable state".
My category is EB3 - March 2004.
Good luck to all for their respective approvals.
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SKK2004
08-25 04:35 PM
Being out of the backlog elimination center and waiting in this line since 2004, trust me when I say this circus isn't new to me :)!
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
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rangaswamy
07-06 05:18 PM
i think this walk should be postponed out to atleast a week or two away.
Firstly i live in Santa clara myself and i had no clue about this till now (less than 24 hours away)
If we organize this the right way you can get atleast a few hundreds of people.
Wait till July 10th, see if we get media coverage with the whole gandhigiri idea.
Organize this and publicize.. start email chains .. for example cisco/oracle etc have lots of H1bs.
hang placards with the number of years you have waited/you educational qualification/ SSN tax and other taxes paid...
make a single file.. and walk about 2 miles without any slogans.
get the media to cover this event appropriately.
Anand
Firstly i live in Santa clara myself and i had no clue about this till now (less than 24 hours away)
If we organize this the right way you can get atleast a few hundreds of people.
Wait till July 10th, see if we get media coverage with the whole gandhigiri idea.
Organize this and publicize.. start email chains .. for example cisco/oracle etc have lots of H1bs.
hang placards with the number of years you have waited/you educational qualification/ SSN tax and other taxes paid...
make a single file.. and walk about 2 miles without any slogans.
get the media to cover this event appropriately.
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saturnring11
07-22 06:53 PM
I feel for the guys who have been waiting since 2001 for their green cards in the EB3-I/C category.
To change the interpretation of how spillover is applied, you will need a better argument than "The system isn't fair."
Why should the USCIS/DOS favor EB3 over EB1 or EB2? Unless you provide a reason that benefits America, no executive or law maker is going to touch this. You can see why this is a tough argument to make - The USCIS sees EB1 as better educated and more accomplished on average than EB2 and the same for EB2 over EB3. Are there exceptions to the rule? Ofcourse there are. But the law is designed to solve the most common scenario and not complicated situations like this.
EB3 to EB2 isn't a slam dunk as many of you have correctly pointed out. One option is to move employers and find the right employer who is ready to file for EB2. While that may not work for everyone, it is the only known way out of the EB3 nightmare.
I support measures that will alleviate your pain although this will likely not benefit my personal situation. Visa recapture is a real possibility at the end of this year - I recommend you support IV to accomplish this goal.
To change the interpretation of how spillover is applied, you will need a better argument than "The system isn't fair."
Why should the USCIS/DOS favor EB3 over EB1 or EB2? Unless you provide a reason that benefits America, no executive or law maker is going to touch this. You can see why this is a tough argument to make - The USCIS sees EB1 as better educated and more accomplished on average than EB2 and the same for EB2 over EB3. Are there exceptions to the rule? Ofcourse there are. But the law is designed to solve the most common scenario and not complicated situations like this.
EB3 to EB2 isn't a slam dunk as many of you have correctly pointed out. One option is to move employers and find the right employer who is ready to file for EB2. While that may not work for everyone, it is the only known way out of the EB3 nightmare.
I support measures that will alleviate your pain although this will likely not benefit my personal situation. Visa recapture is a real possibility at the end of this year - I recommend you support IV to accomplish this goal.
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somegchuh
05-05 05:39 PM
I think H1Bmajdoor isn't taking a depressing tone. It's more of a realization tone.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
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SunnySurya
08-24 09:19 AM
Please don't get me started now. Almost everyone on this forum lurks because of self interest. If one has to do public service , I would join a organization like CRY etc.
Regarding yourself, you lurk on this forum to show you are better than others now that you have your "citizenship". I doubt you have contributed even a single cent to the cause or written any letter or contacted any lawmaker. And I don't blame you because you have no reason to do that.
But I strongly suggest that you should get a life!!!
>> You are talking about 2004, 05
SunnySurya is taking about 2004, 2005 because his PD is Oct 2005. Its that simple. Just self-interest.
Regarding yourself, you lurk on this forum to show you are better than others now that you have your "citizenship". I doubt you have contributed even a single cent to the cause or written any letter or contacted any lawmaker. And I don't blame you because you have no reason to do that.
But I strongly suggest that you should get a life!!!
>> You are talking about 2004, 05
SunnySurya is taking about 2004, 2005 because his PD is Oct 2005. Its that simple. Just self-interest.
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hebbar77
09-09 09:16 PM
Getting sick of this movement in dates.
Illegal guy in US makes more money & without any hassle.
Trying to stay legally hurts very much for the past 9 years.
Atleast they should allow to pre-file I-485 so that atleast guys like me (when we missed july 2007 race) can just file and complete the verification process in I-485.
Are you saying illegals are smart? Or smart poeple are here illegally?
Illegal guy in US makes more money & without any hassle.
Trying to stay legally hurts very much for the past 9 years.
Atleast they should allow to pre-file I-485 so that atleast guys like me (when we missed july 2007 race) can just file and complete the verification process in I-485.
Are you saying illegals are smart? Or smart poeple are here illegally?
jthomas
12-17 07:54 PM
I read and hear the same thing over and over again, NO SAVINGS,
It is also true for me, NO SAVINGS, We all earn a better salary from others since we are high level professionals, born from a indian family. Where are we wrong.
my first 3 years used to save money, from last 3 years i have no savings. better lifestyle than india. Canadian green card backed up. paid paid money to immigration lawyers for US and canada. , NO US education. Helped friends and relatives financially. Setup a business in india, just doing Okay.
Now i am thinking is it worth staying in US away from parents.
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
It is also true for me, NO SAVINGS, We all earn a better salary from others since we are high level professionals, born from a indian family. Where are we wrong.
my first 3 years used to save money, from last 3 years i have no savings. better lifestyle than india. Canadian green card backed up. paid paid money to immigration lawyers for US and canada. , NO US education. Helped friends and relatives financially. Setup a business in india, just doing Okay.
Now i am thinking is it worth staying in US away from parents.
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
nish17
06-22 01:47 PM
My situation is similar too.
The employer is not ready to file the 485, thinking that I may leave the company after 6 months.
I have the I-140 receipt notice , but no approval notice.
There is no way he is going to issue a employment letter , still debating my options.
The employer is not ready to file the 485, thinking that I may leave the company after 6 months.
I have the I-140 receipt notice , but no approval notice.
There is no way he is going to issue a employment letter , still debating my options.
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